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Bretigne's avatar

Traveling in China in the mid 1980s, the joke was that "mei you" ("there isn't any") was the mating cry of restaurant staff. What few restaurants there were were frequently out of a great many of their menu items - sometimes even rice!

And the staff couldn't have cared less. They were despondent, sometimes surly. And why wouldn't they be? The restaurant wasn't going to go out of business, no matter how lousy the product, and the servers weren't going to lose their jobs, no matter how awful the service.

We aren't quite there yet, here in the US, but we're getting closer (and the past four years gave us a big push in that direction), and you're right that these kinds of observations are signs of a much bigger dysfunction.

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Tiffanie Gray's avatar

The loss of common courtesies have been going on for a lot longer than that, as far as I've seen. Probably a couple of decades, at least. They started eroding when "Feminist" as a class was introduced and got worse when "PC" was introduced, though slowly, still. And when "PC" started being pushed more, the manners/common courtesies started being far less common. A man couldn't hold a door open for a woman without being worried she was going to yell at him instead of thank him. People started getting offended at being called "hun". Teachers let themselves be called by their first names....by first graders. And even parents were letting their kids call them by their first names! Part of that is the erosion of language, the changing definition of words and the assertation that words are ideology instead of words expressing ideas. People are afraid to express even a simple "thank you, ma'am" because they might end up offending and then end up being shamed/bullied on youtube or tiktok followed by a cancelling, either by the corporation they were working for, or the customers. So, yeah, early to mid-eighties started the decline, but like any slippery slope, you go faster the further down you slide.

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